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Vol 21  Issue 1049     Circulation 5,000      March 2, 2017

Ardmore, Oklahoma

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I love browsing through old Ardmore City Directories. Hardly a page is turned when I see something or someone listed that I know of or jogs my memory about something else.  Below is from the 1910 and 1913 directories.

1910 Ardmore. Eddleman Building 107 West Main

1910 Ardmore. Wheeler Building 127-129 West Main

1910 Ardmore. Court House. 204 West Main

1910 H. P. Brown Restaurant. 213 West Main

1910 Order of Owls. 216 West Main

1910 Ardmore. Federal Building. 309 West Main

1910 Ardmore. Randol Building. 101 East Main

1913 Ardmore. Glenn Butcher Bowling Alley. 208 West Main

1913 Ardmore. Newman Wilson, Tinner. 214 West Main

1913 Ardmore. New State Hardware and Harness. 215 West Main

1913 Ardmore.  New Randol Hotel. 219 West Main

1913 Ardmore. Noble Building. 128 West Main

1913 Ardmore. Frensley Brothers Lumber Yard. 401 West Main

1913 Ardmore. Star Wagon Yard. 423 West Main

1913 Ardmore. West End Wagon Yard. 501 West Main

1913 Ardmore. Hill Sanitarium. 1103 West Main

A 1957 photo of KVSO TV when it was on Radio Road (today known as NW Boulevard (east of Walmart). It was taken during the construction of the building or maybe even after a storm as the roof and radio tower looks damaged to me.

January 1932
Mrs. Kate Zaneis, the only thing in America which hasn't changed since Washington's day is the district schools. Little if any change has been made in our district schools in the last 200 years.

January 1957
All offices of the Carter County Courthouse will be closed every Saturday morning beginning this week. Only the tax assessor's office will remain open, and it will close after March 31st when the tax Rush is over. County attorney Harley Venters said the closing of the courthouse has been agreed on in a resolution signed by all County officers. The only ones not signing are the three commissioners. The closing, said Venters, will give workers a better feeling toward their jobs, and also allow the building to be kept cleaner by custodians.

January 1957
Christine Legate, Carter County's first woman judge, was sworn into office on January 14th by District Judge John Caldwell. She thinks she is the seventh female County Judge in the state. Sulphur and Ada have female County judges.

You can find current gas prices for a particular Oklahoma town by entering the name or zip code in the GasBuddy search box.

Q. How many Indian reservations are located in Oklahoma?
A.  None. Instead of reservations, Oklahoma Indian tribes have tribal jurisdictional areas.

Q. What is Oklahoma's official Motto?
A. Answer in next week's newsletter

Below is from This and That newsletter archives of February 13, 2005

So as I was driving into Ardmore on West Broadway I thought about the BBQ Express located at Tiffany Plaza. They have been in that same little building for years and several friends told me about their great little BBQ sandwich, but I wanted a hamburger. So, I placed my order and what a disappointment. The burger had one thin slice of tomato, a few small pieces of onion and a few pieces lettuce. Oh well, next time I stop in, I will try their BBQ sandwich.

"Butch, This is my First Grade picture made at Davis in 1951. Lets see how many of your readers can identify any of us. Maybe I can find some old classmates thru this picture." -Scott Bumgarner
"In reply to the question in the most recent T&T, the dam for Lake Murray was built on Anadarche Creek. Lake Murray State Park opened in 1938. The 700 Ranch house was also located on Anadarche Creek." -Mark Coe
"The Lake Murray dam was built at the junction of East Anadarche Creek, West Anadarche Creek and Fourche Maline. Bob Allen's booklet telling the history of Lake Murray is available at the Bookseller."
"Hi, Butch, Nancy Kirk is my cousin. She & Doug do a great job at the Ernie's Meat Market. If you think the chicken livers are good, try the chicken fried steak!"
"Now, if you were saying you didn't particularly care about the liver once a week well I have news for you. My mother in law taught me to cook liver that you will like. rinse the liver, pat dry with a paper towel. Place it on a platter, prick all over with a fork and pour olive oil all over it. Let sit for a few minutes. Dredge in cracker meal. Have the skillet hot with a bit of olive oil, I use that oil that is left in the platter for the skillet. Quickly fry on both sides. Don't over cook till it becomes hard. It is really good and I think you will be surprised. You don't have to publish all of this letter to you. If you want to rewrite the liver directions you may. Isn't it nice that we never get too old to learn something from someone else?" Hazel Letterman
Fred Priddy's cafe, Cedarville Grill in 1947 at Highway 77 in Arbuckle Mountains near Turner Falls.

July 18, 1899
The following is a South McAlester story and as it has a preacher connected with it, it should be taken as correct. "About five years ago Rev. STAMPER and others were out hunting in the mountains near here. The preacher shot a large buck, and when they dressed it a stone about the size and shape of a baseball was found adhering to the paunch. An Indian standing by told the preacher that it was a mad stone. Rev. Stamper gave half of this stone to Col. J.W. EDGELL of the New Era, who has it in his possession ever since. Yesterday an Italian, accompanied by his son, who is 8 years of age, came over from Hartshorne. The boy had been bitten three days before by a dog, which had a mad fit, and which afterward died with hydrophobia. The right ear and the right side of the face was lacerated by the teeth of the dog. The father took his son to a physician, who said he could do nothing but dress the wound and advised the man to come to this city and try the efficiency of the mad-stone. This was done, and yesterday afternoon the stone was applied to the ear of the boy. There were a dozen witnesses present, who say the stone adhered to the ear, saw it swell up and become full of poisonous blood. It was taken off and placed in milk until the poison was extracted and then placed back to the ear. The boy walked the floor in pain, but the stone kept up its powerful suction until it had to be taken off to relieve the boy. This morning the stone was applied, but it failed to adhere, and the conclusion is that the poison has been extracted. The Italian offered $10 for the use of the stone, but the colonel refused to accept anything but thanks. The father and son went home this morning satisfied that the stone had effected a cure.
July 1, 1946
JERRY McCHAREN, county clerk, has prepared a certified copy of the deed that Mrs. LUTIE WALCOTT executed when she gave the property to the Oklahoma Confederate home. She did this for the Rambler column and it has been given to HUGH A. LEDBETTER. It is believed that suit will be brought at an early date to have this property restored to the original owner for the reason that it has ceased to be used for the purposes for which it was given. Ledbetter is among the top lawyers in the entire state on titles and the results of his efforts will be watched with keen interest.
July 1, 1946
The social security offices are moving from the federal building to the Adams building.
The Evening News Ada, Oklahoma, December 7, 1906
Pawhuska, Okla.,--JOHN STINK, the "Evil Spirit" of the Osages is ill at Pawhuska. Ten years ago this Indian, who is now about 65 years old, after a short illness passed into a state of unconsciousness, was pronounced dead and was buried by the tribe with due pomp and ceremony. A few hours after burial Stink came to life and caused consternation by reappearing among the mourners. Since then he has been shunned by all members of the Osage tribe. Stink sleeps on the sidewalks at Pawhuska, refusing shelter. He is fullblood Osage, speaks no English and is allowed 50 cents a day by his guardian for living expenses and if given a dollar he will sit down and eat that amount of food at a time.


Some mail from this week's MAILBAG.....

"Butch, The Ardmore High School Class of 1962 is planning our 55th Class Reunion this coming September at the new Lake Murray Lodge. We are trying to locate a few of our classmates and would appreciate it if you could ask your readers if anyone knows the whereabouts of these people.

Jerry Thornton
Sharon LeMaster Goodman
Linda Mize Conrad
Carolyn Roe Kelty
Dean Williamson

Letters to the above people were returned, with no forwarding address. Any help will be very much appreciated." -Darlene Medrick

"Hi Butch. I wonder if your readers would be interested in an odd burial in Love County. The cemetery, called Dibrell, is near Leon. Started before the Civil War by Ike Cloud, it's located just west of the Cloud Trail near where the trail crossed the Red River. After Ike died it was taken over by Mrs. Cloud's brothers, Jim, Bill and Joe Dibrell, and has since been known as the Dibrell Cemetery. They say that at one time there were at least a 100 graves in it, but now the markers are all gone except for a few new replacements. One of these marks the grave of Capt. Isaac Newton Miller, a soldier and gunman known as Capt. John, who had the good sense to marry a daughter of U.S. Deputy Marshall Selden Lindsey. Your readers may know SL through the biography written by his grandson Harrell McCullough, and some may also know the name of Gloria Reck, who did the genealogy for the book and maintains the Lindsey graves at Find-a-Grave.

All the above is preface to introduce a very odd grave at Dibrell--the burial place of Louisindia Cross (1806-1882). Two things got my attention about her: her remarkable given name, and the frustrating fact that I can learn nothing about her through the usual databases and newspaper archives I consult for genealogical research. What makes the latter fact especially odd, is that the grave marker (transcribed fifty years ago, now vanished) gave her exact date of birth and death . Taken with the place of death, that's usually enough to locate anyone in the databases, but not in this case.

One clue only has emerged from my research. Though FAG shows Louisindia as the only Cross in Dibrell, lists another person, no first name, died 1878. I noted the date because I'd already come across an Alkanah "Caney" Cross south of the River in Cooke Co. TX. Born in VA in 1833, his life after the Civil War is well documented but no data exists for his place of death. (For this reason, FAG gives him a "non-cemetery burial.") His death year, however, is known: 1878. He may well have died in Callisburg, Cooke Co. TX but the event is not documented. Now my mid returns to Louisindia. Caney, born 1833, is a perfect age to be her son. So perhaps he'd crossed the river to help out his old mom and died there, and when four years later she died she was buried near him. A neat speculation but not a shred of evidence to substantiate it. I'm wondering if some of your readers might be able to access documents not online and tell me something more about Louisindia Cross and her family.

Best regards,
Wayne Pounds, Tokyo
b. Lincoln Co. OK 1946

Hitch your wagon to a star. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

See everyone next week!

Butch and Jill Bridges

PO Box 2
Lone Grove, Oklahoma 73443

Vicious Dog Attacks in Oklahoma
Oklahoma Bells:
Bill Hamm's Cemetery Database
American Flyers Memorial Fund - Administration Webpage
Official American Flyers Memorial Website
Ardmore Army Air Field/Ardmore Air Force Base Website
Mirror Site of the Ardmore Army Air Field/Ardmore Air Force Website
Carter County Government Website

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