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If you’re looking for a certain article I wrote in a past issue of “This & That” you might find it faster by doing a “search” with your browser. With Netscape just click your mouse at the top at EDIT and then FIND and type in the word or words you’re looking for. If you use Internet Explorer, just click on EDIT and then FIND ON THIS PAGE to do a search. Below is March 2, 2002 to March 30, 2006.
March 30, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 479
I got a little behind on my T&T this week. I been installing a new kitchen sink and it ate my lunch (and supper) several times, not to mention being hard on an old man. lol. I think every bone in my body is aching from all that work. I do have several things to pass along but will have to include them in next week’s T&T. Until then here are a few things I was able to include this week…..
This is an interesting photo in 1918 when the Simpson Building at West Main and A Street was brand new. (Citizens bank is on the first floor of the Simpson Building today.) What is interesting about this picture is the buildings to the east (left) of the Simpson Building. Next door is the water department where people would pay their water bill. Click Here
This is a picture of the Elks Home in Ardmore before statehood (1907). The building is still located in the NW corner of North Washington and Broadway. Click Here
A couple of weeks ago a Reader wrote in telling about one of those old timey concrete street markers being at C Street and 7th NW. I have since learned that is not a street marker at that location, but rather an old concrete hitching post! Click Here
In the Mailbag below is a couple of great pictures taken in 1906 of Ardmore’s Selvidge Business College. The school was located at SE corner of North Washington and 2nd (across from the old Mulkey Hotel). The building still stands today. The last time I was in it back in the mid 1980s it was a Vietnamese restaurant. They had the best egg rolls and I remember they made their sweet and sour sauce using orange marbleaid as one of the main ingredients.
Speaking of marbleaid, I did a search in google for the word and found very little mention of it on the web. Am I spelling it wrong or using an outdated word? When I was a kid my family would ask for orange marbleaid at the grocery store. It had little bits of orange rind in the jelly for one thing.
Below is an email I received this week inquiring about a school in Ardmore in the 1930s. I hope someone out there can connect a name to the school the lady is asking about. If so, send me an email.
“I ran across your web page and spent a very interesting hour reading it. I am seeking information about a school that was in Ardmore back in 1937. When my brother was born, my mother could not take care of him and the Chickasaw Nation placed him in a Chickasaw school or home. I was told it was adjacent to a ranch that Gene Autry had at that time. My brother stayed there about 4 years. He was not taken away from her, but placed there until she could provide for him. I was told they had girls there that were in training to help care for children. I would like to know more about this school. I will always be thankful for the help they provided for my brother and mother. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could help each other that way again.”
SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK’S MAILBAG
“Butch, are you sure this isn’t a sandburr? I think a goathead only has 4 prongs.” -Minnie Lou Whittington
“All I can say is this, “You continue to outdo yourself from week to the next” – thanks again for keeping our youth alive with the walks down memory lane. As for the goatheads, when we started football practice in Davis you couldn’t find a clean spot of grass on the field because of them. I honestly believe they hurt more than the hits we took during the football drills.” -Poss
“The article about the early development of Wilson caught my eye, especially the mention of the lumber yards. My dad was the manager of the Hudson Houston yard in the 1930’s. My family had the whole top floor of the office area for living quarters and in 1937 I was born there in the era when most babies were born at home. I have fun telling people that I was born on top of a lumber yard and my mother was born under Lake Texoma( in the town of Woodville.) Of course the lake wasn’t there yet.” -Rella Merrill Helms
“Hi Butch, I look forward to TGIF and the arrival of your T & T newsletter. The Goathead sticker made a lasting impression on me as a barefooted child, They grew on a plant that put out runners that laid flat on the ground. It seemed that they grew in profusion on the vacant lots, cotton yards and on the school playground. They were a little larger than Grassburrs, about the size of the diameter of a cigarette and the spines were a lot larger at the base. They didn’t have a lot of spines, about 5 or 6 on each seed, One was always pointing up and they really made a puncture wound. the wound would hurt for hours it seemed. I have surfed the net looking for pictures but haven’t found any. As I haven’t seen any growing for years. I would appreciate someone posting a picture of one on T&T. Surely they are not extinct.” -Bill Uhles
After a $5 million renovation, the Will Rogers Museum in Pacific Palisades (just South of Los Angeles) will re-open on Saturday March 25, 2006. The re-opening even made the local TV news today (Thursday March 23), but no mention of Oklahoma
“Butch, I learned this week that after the city took the downtown drag strip away from the slow pokes car club, to make it a full blown air strip. The racers ran at the air base a few times before going to the present location. Can any one help me with information on this. Thanks.” -Rob Raglandc email@example.com
Selvidge Business College…. North Washington and 2nd NE. Ardmore, Oklahoma Click Here Click Here
Hi Butch, please pass the word, it’s Woodland School reunion time again. It will be April 22nd. It starts at 4:00pm and eat at 7:00pm. The price is $12.00. You need a reservation by April 1. call Roy Cooper 580-868-3304 or Royce Jones 580-369-2851
“Hey, was reading your T&T after having the week off to play with my granddaughters while mom got rested up from having the baby. Anyway, was quite surprised to read this paragraph from someone who also lives in NW Arkansas. I thought I was the only one of your readers from this area. It was a nice surprise. When I took the girls home on Friday I did drive around my son’s neighborhood and realized just how close that tornado was to them. It actually hit two streets behind them and took out several huge trees, a couple of out buildings and some roof damage. The Bentonville High School and their new multi-million dollar football stadium is just a couple more blocks from there and the stadium and indoor practice building sustained some major damage. The amazing thing to me as I drove around, though, was that Walmart was sure lucky because they have so many huge warehouses in that entire area and not a one of them was hit. The best part of all was that no one was hurt or killed. Houses and businesses can be rebuilt, but lives can not.” -Kathi
Hey Butch, long time no talk. I’m still around and reading the newsletter every week. I just wanted to let you know that a friend and I made a short trip to Medicine Park, Oklahoma yesterday, just to check it out. It is really a neat little town to visit, and we plan to re visit the place in the summer. Cobblestone houses and all. I have a few pictures i took, if you would be interested in posting a couple of them. Just let me know. It would be a nice weekend excursion for many in this area. Looking forward to next weeks newsletter.” -Karla
Hi again, as a follow up to my last message regarding the 1966 Dickson High School Reunion (if there is one) I am attaching a photo of our graduation class and asking for information on the people that any of you might have. I was not in the photo because of starting back to class after the photos were taken. Some of the people I know have passed away over the years and I will try to note them however hope I do not get any wrong. If any of you have further information please let me know. Please see attached photograph also see the attached file and hope it works. Hope you can blow it up to see the names on one of them. If not let me know and I will see what else I can do. Thank You & Bee Good. -Mike Pennington firstname.lastname@example.org
Names: Left to Right
Earnest Moore, Superintendent
W.C. Jordan, Principal
Mary Cochran, Teacher
Bryn Gary, Teacher
Ronald Allen (Died)
Cheryl Moore (Died)
Jerry Don Dewberry (MIA Vietnam)
Sue Bishop Tibbs
Marilyn Wilkes Beard
Gary Vineyard (Died)
Harold Morris (Died)
Janie Vaughn Creecy
Mike Pennington (not pictured)
Vernon Burton (Not pictured Died)
Several people attended Dickson but did not graduate or get their photos taken in time I will list the one’s I know of. Please add to the list or advise.
Wally Smith (1967 class Died)
Doug Smith (1965 Class Died)
“Hi Butch, I am looking for family related to Charles A. Brown (b. 1887 d. 1952). He was married to Josephine (Kemp). He had sons Nathaniel, Martin E. and Joe E. Brown. Daughters Ethel (Brown) Lindsey (married B.H. Lindsey), Lorena (Brown) Elmore (married George M. Elmore), Martha J. Brown, and Bessie A. Brown (last up at Oklahoma City area). I know that Lorena (Brown) and George Elmore had a son named Floyd Lee Elmore and that they are all buried at Springer. I know that Ethel Lindsey had a daughter named Gracie. Ethel may have had a son named Coy Claude Lindsey. Martin E. Brown had sons Cortez and Raymond Brown and a daughter Bessie. Any Brown, Lindsey or Elmore relatives please give me a shout.”
“My grandfather was W.H. (Bill) France. He was the Carter County Tax Assessor for a lot of years. Do you know of any history on him? I love you website. Thank you.” -Debbi in Muskogee email@example.com
If the winds of fortune are temporarily blowing against you, remember that you can harness them and make them carry you toward your definite purpose, through the use of your imagination. -Napolean Hill
See everyone next week!
Lone Grove, Oklahoma
March 23, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 478
Last week some of you maybe have noticed in the Mailbag where Danny McNutt of Escondido, California wrote it asking for info on the 1966 plane crash at Gene Autry which killed 82 people. Danny was one of the dozen or so survivors that dreadful Friday night. He managed to make it down that mountain after the crash and came out on a dirt road where a couple picked them up in their car. After Danny’s post in the Mailbag in last week’s T&T someone contacted him to say her parents were the ones who picked him up by the roadside and she was in the car too. Danny is making a trip to Ardmore for 4 days April 20th, and the lady said she would be glad to show Danny where her parents picked him up that night. It is things like this that makes my T&T and website all worth it. There is only a handful of those survivors still left from that plane crash in 1966 in the Arbuckle Mountains. I am planning on meeting Danny sometime during those four days he’s in Ardmore next month, shake his hand, and tell him what an honor it is to meet a miracle man.
This Saturday, March 25th is pickup day for the Angel Food Program. Here is a list again of what’s in the food basket for those of you who have paid the $25. Click Here
And if you want to look at what’s on the menu for April, here’s a scan of the menu. Click Here
If you have Adobe Acrobat Reader on your computer, this is the PDF file format of April’s menu. Click Here
If you want in for April, be sure and get your $25 in before the deadline. There’s going to be a lot of good food in the basket for next month!
Many of you will remember a year and two months ago when I talked about rising costs of maintaining my website, mainly because of having to increase my storage space on my OklahomaHistory.net website. With the ever growing number of photos I was adding each month storing those pics was reaching several 100 megs. And with the addition of new webpages on almost a monthly basis and the every growing archiving of T&T newsletter files, I only had two choices. Stop putting pics and newsletters on my website or pay for more storage space on the host webserver.
Several of you wrote in over a year ago with suggestions, even saying you’re willing to pay a small amount as a subscription to my T&T as long as the T&Ts continued. In over 9 years there are two things I’ve never done with the T&T. I’ve never asked for money to keep it going, or asked if anyone wanted to receive it. I have always believed if you build a better mouse trap, the world will beat a path to your doorstep. That is what’s happened with my T&T and website. Over 1,500 of you have asked to receive my weekly ezine by email, and my Oklahomahistory.net website gets over 500,000 Hits a month.
I’m sure some of you are thinking right now, “Butch, what are you getting at, gonna ask for money?” Nope. That is the good news I want to share with everyone. A year and 2 months ago when I told about the Tel3 Long Distance and how I would use the revenue from that to pay the newsletter and website expenses, I didnt realize in just a little over a year later, over 625 people averaging 5,000 minutes a day would be using the service to save on their long distance calls! I was only trying to have a part time income from the Tel3 Long Distance, but the monthly income from it is now is greater than my monthly county check. I owe a big thanks to all of you who helped make this happen. I can see my T&T and website being around for a long time to come! Again, thanks everyone.
Just one more thing and I’ll move on. Only in the past 30 days or so days has Tel3 added a lot more local access numbers so people living in nearly every area of Southern Oklahoma can now take advantage of the 1.9 cents a minute using Tel3 long distance (instead of 2.9 cents using the 800 number). So with all that said, a better mouse trap? Yes. So if your paying more than 1.9 cents a minute to call anywhere in the US or Canada 24/7, then your paying to much. You can check out all the details at…… Click Here
SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK’S MAILBAG
“I would like to see a program there in Ardmore called “Up With Trees”. It gives honor to those that are gone on. It would give honor to my parents.” -Marie in Tulsa
“Check out the new web site for Countryside Sweets. Jaree Garrison is my daughter and Sharon Spurgin is her best friend. They opened their business last Valentines day…just had a one year anniversary for the business. Most of their business this year has been word of mouth and that has worked quite well with lots of repeat customers. This year they want to do more advertising though.” -Sylvia Moore Click Here
It has been 40 years and the “Ardmore High School Class of 1966 is having their reunion on June 9 and 10. We are trying to find the following classmates and we need help. If anyone knows where these people are, please help us. Thank you.” -James and Millie Adams firstname.lastname@example.org
Kay Adams, Joyce Anderson, Barbara Barcus, Bobbie Bayliss, Bob Brady, Reba Byers, Gary Cason, Cheryl Chappell, Oscar Copeland, Janice Craighead, Norma Cravens, Susan Davis, Ronnie Dennis, Sharon Dewitt, Jeanne Deyette, Barbara Fender, Ray Foster, Warren Gough, Carolyn Grundy, Milton Hayes, Nancy Henson, Steve Henson, Ronnie Hignight, Donna Hunt, Ronald Hunt, Donna Hunter, Danny Hyder, Sherilyn Ingalls, Harry James, Teddy Jordan, Susie Joshua, Betty Keeton, Jeane Kennedy, Larry King, Leslie King High, Molly King, Wayne Kyelberg, Bill Lasiter, Don Lawson, Owen Lowe, Bill McWilliams, Kathi Moore, Donna Moore, Greg Morris, Randy Nelson, Charletta Parks, Beverly Lewis Pogue, James Randolph, Laquita Riley Dorris, Jim Robertson, Joyce Rogers Dunham, John Runge, Jimmy Sam, Paul Sellman, Tommy Sexton, Glenda Shawn, Skip Shiffer, Jerry Smith, Jimmy Smith, Tommy Smith, Mike South, Larry Spencer, Glenn Spradley, Don Taylor, Judy Teacle Davenport, Connie Wallace, Stanley Watkins, Richard Warren, Charles Weldon, Donna Wilkins, Maxine Wise, Jennifer Wood, Bob Winstead, Jerry Vaile
“We just had a hard storm hit us then as soon as it came it was gone. And we got this beautiful rainbow.” -Doug Williams Click Here
Hi I am looking to tie Clarence Harris of Ardmore to my grandmother (Oma Harris Brown of Ardmore). Clarence was Chief of Police in Ardmore in 1939-43. City manager in 1949 and county commissioner 1929-1930.
I think he may have been my grandmother’s brother or even father. Anyway, I found a copy of a petition he signed in 1939 as Chief of Police that committed my grandfather to the state hospital. I think a family member would have done that for my grandmother so I feel like if I can find someone today related to the Clarence Harris mentioned above, then I could prove or disprove if we are related. I am sure I am related to some Harris in Ardmore. I would like to find that link.
This is what I know for sure: My grandmother was Oma Mae Harris. She had a sister named Maude Harris. She may have had a brother named Coy Harris. She married my grandfather Martin E. Brown and lived in Ardmore. Clarence Harris (Chief of Police) signed a petition to have my grandfather committed in 1939.
Any hits on this info please contact me at email@example.com or here at work at firstname.lastname@example.org during the day 8-5.
“Hi Butch. That is a great job on those veterans markers. Healdton has had a number of grave stones toppled and broken. This happened some time ago, but when I was at the cemetery a few weeks ago, I again noticed several of the older stones toppled, most from the 1800s or turn of the century. I also noticed that there was a large granite stone from the 1960s sitting on the entrance to the cemetery tool shed. It appeared to me that someone had recently been up to turning over gravestones again. I reported it to the city, but never heard anything more of it.”
“Hi Bitch great T&T! That goathead bit brought back old memories of my younger years and bike tires “LAUGH” so I had to take a look at the picture you had found, and I was thinking of a different thorn? or this is a deferent one? or what they look like in an earlier stage than what I was use to seeing them in “after they punctured a hole in my tire? So I did a search as well and came up with these pictures as I remember them. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!” -Phillip Shirley Click Here
“I remember “Goathead Stickers” as four pronged, a tetrahedron where there were always one point sticking up They were much smaller than pictured, around a quarter inch point to point. Yes, the stickers ruined a lot of tires and tubes. Most of the time there was a “slow leak” or several on your bike tires. You would attempt to patch the tube and when looking for a leak there would be more than one. Soon your tube had so many cold patches or hot patches if your were able to afford them, it would have to be replaced. Going barefooted in the summer “Goat heads” were the plague. Seems the point would break off and remain in your foot as well as tire causing problems till they could be removed. Ouch!” -R. L. Shive, Nebo, OK when in Oklahoma and Kingwood,TX when we are not RLSHIVE@aol.com
“Butch, here are a couple of pictures I took in areas of the dreadful fire near Ratliff City. Far too many homes were left as this one. We need to remember that the burn ban is still on until nature gives us some real relief.” -Joh Click Here Click Here
“Butch, Talking about mule skinners I will relate a story that my oldest sister’s husband told During WW1 he was drafted and they made him a mule skinner it helped him being from Oklahoma. and in France he hauled ammo up to the front with a wagon and mules He got up to the front and the big gun that he was hauling for the gunner had just been shot and the captain grabbed him and put him under the gun as the new gunner 18 hours later when the fighting stopped they told him that there had been eight gunner;’s in the last hour that had been shot off that gun before him and he told the capt that no bullet made could go through his mothers prayers. My Dad said that a mule was smarter than a horse A horse getting his foot caught in a barbed wire fence would keep pulling it back and forth until his hoof was cut off while a mule would just stand there and wait for help to come.” -Paskell
“Here’s what I would like to ask your readers. Do any of them happen to have a photo of the “Tavern” at Turner Falls. Scott “Hoss” Bumgarner, Harvey “Outlaw” Nichols, Donald “Conway” Carter and myself Ralph “Poss” Ford are in the process of making a charter and want to use the picture of the “Tavern” as part of the Charter. Would appreciate if any of your readers might have a pic of the “Tavern” or know where we might get one. Thanks once again for a nice walk down memory lane.” -Poss
I thought your readers may appreciate the attached photo:
Mule Skinner. Bill McDowell sitting on the horse at the left. Notice “Perry Hardware Tin Shop” on sign. “Bill was employed c1911 to bring his mules and Fresno for the construction of the 1st National Bank Bldg. in Duncan OK, and to haul stones.” per Flossie McDowell Wright (1894-1984) of Velma OK. “Uncle Bill always had the most beautiful horses and mules.” per Rachel McDowell (1913-1994) of Pampa TX. Joseph William “Bill” McDowell (1880-1955) is buried in the Jericho Cemetery, Donley County, TX.
From my 742-page BENJAMIN BOURLAND AND FOURTEEN OF HIS CHILDREN. Patricia Adkins-Rochette, prochette@Juno.com, www.bourlandcivilwar.com
Patricia Adkins-Rochette, 918-250-5040 7312 South Garnett Road, #318, Broken Arrow, OK 74012 www.bourlandcivilwar.com, Bourland in North Texas & Indian Territory During the Civil War: Fort Cobb, Fort Arbuckle & the Wichita Mountains
Hi Butch, Re: The picture of the goathead of “This and That Volume 10, Issue 477.” It reminded me of a time of my boyhood days when living in Ringling, Oklahoma.
A Tale of Goathead Stickers and Blister Bugs The state of Oklahoma is known for its goathead stickers and blister bugs. Both make their debut in mid-summer. A goathead is a green sticker that grows in large patches. Its nickname is probably derived from its shape. I guess someone thought the sticker looked like a goat’s head. Though the sticker did not look like a goat’s head to me, I accepted the title. Why fight a tradition?
The blister bug is also the color green. Its green color allows it to blend in with the green goathead sticker. For this reason, perhaps, this bug decided to make its habitat with the goathead sticker. The blister bug emits a liquid that will raise a blister on contact with bare skin. We avoided them like the plague. I don’t remember ever coming in physical contact with one of the bugs. Fortunately, they tended to be more afraid of me than I of them. This tale occurred in Ringling, Oklahoma in the year of 1944. We four boys, ages age 11 to 16, Willie Joe, James P., Richard, and I played the macho game of running or walking over Goat Heads. At first, we swiftly ran over the stickers. Later, as our feet toughened, instead of running over them, we walked fast. The summer heat toughened our bare feet more than ever. Thus, by the end of the summer we were able to leisurely walk over the hardened goathead patches. When the goathead stickers died, the blister bugs disappeared. Now why do boys run barefooted over goatheads and blister bugs barefooted? Grown-ups don’t understand, and girls shake their heads and tell each other boys are crazy. Only boys understand why boys play that macho game because it’s a boy’s thing to do. And a boy’s gotta do what a boy’s gotta do.” -Grant West
“Last week you mentioned O. R. Bridges. He was one of my favorite teachers. He taught me Algebra at Russell High School, the demonstration school for Southeastern in Durant. He and my Dad were also good friends, maybe because they were both from Ardmore.” -J. Maxey
RE: “Butch: When I was in high School at Davis, And concrete foundations— The concrete foundations up the hill and a mile or so west of the river bridge in Dougherty are the remains of a boy scout camp– I believe it was built by the wpa or the ccc not sure about that- I went up there several times with Kathy and her cousin Don, — I suspect Kathy Ann reads your news letter- maybe she will respond and elaborate.” -George Peveto, Irving TX.
“Well friend, we survived the tornadoes in Northwest Arkansas over the last weekend. We did have some storm damage. we had some wind damage and we did have a little hail damage. As you can see by the picture we had some pretty good size hail. Sounded like some was was on the roof with a six pound hammer. We were lucky though, my neighbors down the road lost everything. We had several tornadoes in the area, the one that hit Bentonville according to the weather experts from Tulsa it ws a F-3, there was not anyone hurt. In Missouri toward Branson there were about 10 people killed. It was a wild night last Sunday night.” -Dennis and Wanda Adams, Arkansas Click Here
“Butch, there are different types of tomato bags. If the ones used for marketing hothouse tomatoes are needed, go to www.rayton.com. For the growing types, Gardener’s Supply has plug&grow bags and topsy-turvy planters – www.gardeners.com – and some gardeners make their own.” -Elizabeth
“Butch, hopes this helps you out on the tomato bags.” -Tom Click Here Click Here Click Here
“In some cases like Hotmail and Yahoo mail, if the recipient will add the sender’s email address to their address book, the mail message will no longer be rejected or sent to the “spam” folder. So if your newsletter recipients will add butchbridges@OklahomaHistory.net to their address book, it may eliminate some problems!” -Julie Riggs
“Hi Butch, Re the inquiry about Nelda cemetery. The information can be found at the website below.” -A. A. Stilley Click Here
BERWYN/GENE AUTRY SCHOOL REUNION. Plans are being made for the annual Berwyn School Reunion at Gene Autry. The reunion will be held at the old school house in Gene Autry. This school is now the Gene Autry Museum. Not only will people have a chance to visit with old friends but they will have the opportunity to tour this great Museum. The reunion will be held on the Fourth of July week end, Saturday, July 1, 2006. We are attempting to locate everyone who ever attended school there, lived there or was a friend of those who lived there and would like to attend the reunion. Invitations will be mailed out in late May. If anyone would like to be placed on this invitation list please let me know and you will be notified of all details. You may contact me at RHHaney@Verizon.net I will be looking forward to hearing from you and seeing you at our reunion.
-Richard (Butch) Haney
Miss Woods and the girl from Texas
By Donald E. Smith
Miss Woods our school teacher, was the daughter of a Mr. Woods who worked for my Grandfather as a bookkeeper for Sinclair Oil Co. She was a shining light to all of us in our class. She was always helpful to each of us in our class. The girl from Texas came in the summer of 1939. This was during the great depression. Her family were farmers, some were near Wichita Falls Texas. Those were the days of the great depression. The dust bowl was in full swing and it was difficult to make a living. So her father and mother had heard of the Healdton Oil field where there were five spotting, that is drilling in wells between the existing wells. So they had come to Oklahoma to make ends meet. They had loaded up there covered wagon with the necessary tools to do the work of building slush pits and headed for the Healdton field. They had three children and upon arrival had set up camp right behind the Dundee school on a small creek. The Dundee pond lay just across the road. The children started school and under the primitive conditions they were living under it was difficult for them to be quite as well groomed as the other children. This girl from my class was a pretty faced girl but not as well kept as most, her face was not always clean and her hair was unkempt. The girl had a charming personality. She was poorly dressed. Miss Woods was quick to see the good in her. She bought her a wash cloth and towel, comb and brush. She also got several dresses, hand me downs from other families. From that day forward the girl came to school well groomed and looked like the rest of the children. After several months the work played out so the family loaded their covered wagon and left western Carter County and returned to Texas.
From The Carter County Record.
November 21, 1913
“Wilson News Notes”
Last Sunday the Record reporter visited the new townsite of Wilson and saw what was to be seen. The big well which was dug to a depth of about 30 feet and was beginning to cave in some, has a covering of heavy timbers laid over it and a drilling machine is now engaged in drilling in the center of it to a greater depth in the hope of striking a sufficient supply of water. When this is accomplished the big part of the well will be walled up. Four lumber yards have been established there. They are the Hudson-Houston, Leeper, Chickasaw and the Adams yards. Two of them have office buildings erected, and all are busy getting their yards and lumber in shape to do a rushing business. But as yet, or at that time, not a residence house is built nor in course of construction there. There is an eating joint in the old house near the track, while several tents are to be seen scattered about, mostly near the outskirts of the townsite. Near the western limits of the town plat many car loads of steel rails are uniformly piled up in readiness to be used when the ties are laid from that point further on west. Gradually more people are making Wilson their stopping place, most of whom at present, are employees of the road and carpenters employed to build lumber sheds and offices. Business houses, stores, hotels and offices, there are none to speak of. These together with residences occupied by families is all that hinders Wilson from being a good town, and perhaps all these things will be added to it as time wears on. A large amount of oil well machinery, heavy lumber, well casing, and piping is being daily shipped to this point where it is unloaded and freighted thence by wagon to the oil fields. Business in other freight as well as passenger traffic is good. The best and handsomest thing in the new town is the railway depot, spic and span, and up to now in every detail. This station would do credit to any larger town, and to Wilson it is pre-eminently IT.” -Submitted by Mindy Taylor
Here are some early photos of the State School for the Deaf, Sulphur, Oklahoma. Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
“Hi Mr. Bridges, It was amazing to talk to someone who could tell about the Don Bivens accident in 1975 after all these years, and was actually on the scene as you were! This puts some closure on this for me.”
Below is a photo of a 1914 baptism in Oxford Lake for the Antioch Baptist Church, two miles east. Ola (Tyner) Spain is the 5th person from the right in the water. Oxford Lake was near the juncture of Indian Creek and Pilot Grove Creek, three miles northwest of Farmersville in Collin County. The Confederate Brush Battalion, a collection of brush men from the creek bottoms, camped at Oxford Lake, even though one muster listing read: “December 12, 1863, Bonham.” Sent by Rita Bickley Roose of the Farmersville Historical Society. Many of the Confederate Brush Battalion who camped at Oxford Lake were involved in the Lee-Peacock Feud. -Patricia Adkins-Rochette, email@example.com, www.bourlandcivilwar.com
Leonard, Fannin County, Texas. A reenactment of the Lee-Peacock Feud is set for April 1st in Leonard at Number One Tiger Alley Street from 12:00 until 6:00 p.m. as part of the Annual Spring Festival sponsored by the Leonard Junior High School Parent Teacher League. Other activities will be ball games, craft booths, music, square dancing, and a Chili Cookoff. If you want to enter the Chili Cookoff, call Chris Conti at 903-587-2658, (firstname.lastname@example.org) or Kristin Reid at 903-587-2107 (email@example.com). Proceeds will will benefit the Leonard Junior High School Parent Teacher League.
Patricia Adkins-Rochette, 918-250-5040
7312 South Garnett Road, #318, Broken Arrow, OK 74012
www.bourlandcivilwar.com Bourland in North Texas & Indian Territory
During the Civil War: Fort Cobb, Fort Arbuckle & the Wichita Mountains
In poverty and other misfortunes of life, true friends are a sure refuge. The young they keep out of mischief; to the old they are a comfort and aid in their weakness, and those in the prime of life they incite to noble deeds. -Aristotle
See everyone next week!
Lone Grove, Oklahoma
March 16, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 477
The project to replace broken and missing Veteran markers in the Veterans Section of Rosehill Cemetery is moving along very nicely. I’ve made a couple improvements in my method and the making of the markers is moving along much faster. This week we’ve made 4 new markers bringing the total to 7 markers. Doug Williams has already set 3 at the cemetery. Bear in mind when you look at the pics below they are fresh out of the mould and still contain a lot of water content. As they dry out over the weeks ahead the markers will become more white.
First, is Guy Smith’s marker before replacement. The condition is almost undescribable. Click Here
And this is a pic of Guy Smith’s new marker right out of the mould. Click Here
This is a pic of Wm Barnes marker before. Click Here
This is William Barnes new marker just 24 hours old. Click Here
For those who have gave to this project here is a accounting of the donations and expenditures. Click Here
I received a good old fashioned hand written letter this week by the U.S. Mail. The letter came from Haywood, Oklahoma in Pittsburg county. He was inquiring about Nellda cemetery at Durwood, Oklahoma in eastern Carter county and if there is a record book associated with the cemetery. So many of the rural cemeteries do not have any record book or if they did, it was lost down through time as one caretaker after another changed hands. Does anyone know who the present caretakers are of Nellda cemetery?
I received a request this week asking if anyone knows a source for ‘tomato bags”. I hate to admit it, but I have never heard the term “tomato bag” and sure dont know where to get any. Where’s Terry Key when I need him? Anyone out there want to expound on this?
I was talking to someone this week about the big cotton patch someone planted each year under the 5th Ave Viaduct when I was a teen back in the 60s. I’d ride my bicycle there to ‘steal’ a few cotton balls and I remember one year getting in a goathead sticker patch next to the cotton patch by the railroad tracks. Boy, I ruined both tires on my bicycle. I havent personally seen a goathead sticker in many years, and guess they are still around the Ardmore area. Here is a pic I found on the internet of a goathead sticker. Click Here
Last week’s T&Ts went out fine. But I did have some problems with those who use yahoo and hotmail Servers. After 12 hours or so, those 2 Servers bounced back a few dozen T&Ts. I dont know what can be done to correct that problem, if anything. The problem lies at the Yahoo and Hotmail end.
With this week’s T&T we start our 10th year of sending out every week. I doubt if very many Internet born newsletters can boast this length of continuous operation. I owe it all to you, my Readers. Thanks everyone for 9 great years!
SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK’S MAILBAG
“The Sylvan Goldman story brought back an embarrassing moment. I was working as plant nurse and secretary to the manager of Folding Carrier (the company in OKC who manufactured the grocery shopping carts owned by Mr. Goldman). A very sharp and good looking gentleman walked into our front office wanting to see the manager and named him. I kindly told him he would have to wait because the manager was in a meeting with a union personnel. The visitor looked at me and said, “I said I want to see him now” and proceeded to the office manger’s door. I jumped up and got between him and the door and said,”Sir, I am sorry, but the manager cannot be disturbed now”. He replied, “Do you know who I am” and I replied, “No, it doesn’t really matter, you or no one else will be seeing the manager until he is finished with this meeting.” The visitor began to laugh and introduced himself as Sylvan Goldman. He later offered me a job in his office because he knew I was such a good watch dog. This was in 1957 and I shall never forget it. We became friends and continued working with his young sons at that time.” -Ann Phillips
“Ref: This & That a few weeks ago. I stumbled onto a concrete marker at the corner of “C” & 7th NW today. I don’t remember the locations that you gave in your weekly mailing. I have past that corner for years, but had never really seen the concrete marker until you had your article regarding those concrete markers used a long time ago.” -Doug Morris
“Hello Butch. below is a story about my paternal Grandmother’s family. But first let me tell you just who I am. My name is Tom Galloway. I was born in a small house in Stillwater, Oklahoma in 1938 to Thomas Otis Galloway and Lorene Geneva (Moore) Galloway. My maternal grandfather, John P. Moore lived just outside Perry, Oklahoma at the time I was born. There are still some Moore’s in Perry.” -Tom Galloway firstname.lastname@example.org
By Thomas K. Galloway September 14, 2005
The following is a true story told to me by my father’s youngest brother, Darrell Galloway. Actually his full name is Manley Darrell Galloway. As of this date, he is the only brother still alive. He retired from the U.S. Army. He and his wife live in Texas. He related this story to me as told to him by his mother Willie Mae (Hawkins) Galloway. This story is about her father Peter Francisco Hawkins, and how the family ended up in Oklahoma.
Willie Mae’s brother, Eli was a very young pupil in a country school near the small village of Katemcy, Texas (17 miles north of Mason, Texas). The male teacher whipped Eli with a buggy whip for some small infraction. When Willie Mae, her sisters lillie, Lois and little brother Eli returned home that day after school and told their father, he blew his stack.
The next day Peter kept all his children home from school. He later saddled his horse and with his long gun, rode east to the Katemcy Creek crossing and waited for the teacher. The teacher was boarding with another farmer who had taken a wagon load of cotton to the cotton gin in Katemcy and was giving the teacher a ride home. When they were crossing the creek, Peter hailed the farmer to stop. Peter and the teacher got into a verbal bellicose. The farmer had a shotgun (as was usual in those days for shooting wild game) leaning against the wagon’s foot-board. The teacher reached down and got the weapon. Big mistake! Peter as usual when he went riding with his long-gun, had it laying across his thighs. Before the furious teacher could pull the trigger, Peter shot him in the head. The teacher fell into the creek.
Later that same evening Peter rode all the way into Mason to the sheriff’s office and told him what happened. The sheriff told Peter to go home and he would “look into the matter.” Well, it seems that the sheriff verified Peter’s version with the farmer.
Things were quiet for awhile. But, it seems that the State Marshall out of Austin was pressured by the State Teachers Association to take action. So the Mason County Sheriff, a good friend of Peter, was a practicing stump lawyer, went out to the Hawkins farm and told Peter he had better pack up his family and get out of Texas. They talked it over and decided that Oklahoma Territory was the best place to move to since it was not yet a state. Peter packed up his family into two wagons, and with a few head of stock, joined up with a small wagon train that was headed north. They remained with the wagon train until Trails End in northwestern Oklahoma.
The Mason County Sheriff sold the Hawkins farm, the remaining stock and the farm equipment. When he heard from Peter, sometime later, he sent him the monies.
That’s the story. Apparently Peter’s wife and two children are buried in a small plot on a farm in Mason County.
“Butch, I think maybe I’ve been through Hugo a couple of times in my life, but it does bring back to me an unusual story that my father, Elmer Carr, told back in the 50’s. My Dad was a good friend of Raymond Gary when Raymond ran for Oklahoma governor back in the 50’s. As a result of Dad helping in getting Raymond elected Dad was given a position on Oklahoma’s economic development board trying to bring industry into Oklahoma. Another person on this commission was a banker friend in Hugo by the name of Charles Hassing. Charles being a banker was far wealthier than our family and traveled a good deal during Gary’s years. Charles was placed on a committee to improve U S Highway 70 though our state. While on this committee he was in New York at the time the old movie “To Hell and Back” was premiered in New York. So of course Charles made the trip to the movie, but didn’t leave until he placed one of his improve US Highway 70 bumper stickers below the advertisement of “To Hell and Back” at the theater which of course said “Take Highway 70 all the way”. This is a true story.” -Michael D. Carr
“Butch: When I was in highschool at Davis, I attended and graduated DHS with a gal from Dougherty, Kathy Pinkston whose Mom taught at Davis. One Sunday, Kathy Ann and I decided to climb a hill that I think was just about straight to the west of the Washita River bridge. Upon that hill or mountain was a few concrete foundations that someone told us were what was left of a German POW camp during WWII. Have you ever heard of anything like this, or was it maybe part of this Camp Chapman? BTW, speaking of the Washita River, my wife and I were on a junket this week following US 66, beginning at Claremore and following it as far west as we could go which was Clinton. After visiting a cousin in Clinton, we decided to travel up to Butler, OK to do some genealogical work in the Butler Cemetery. While traveling up to Butler from Clinton, we crossed the Washita River, at least five times, and everytime I could have jumped across it…… in my younger days. Keep up the great T & T.” -Scott Bumgarner, Sherman, TX
“I accidentally stumbled onto your web site. I find it interesting because my dad has a large bell in his back yard. My parents would ring it when it was time to come home. You could hear it all over Stigler, Oklahoma. My granddad took the bell from an old Indian Church out in Western Oklahoma near Lawton. I think the Church was being torn down. In addition to the bell in my parent’s back yard in Stigler, Oklahoma, there is a bell in the tower of the United Methodist Church in Stigler (It is not visible). They would let the kids ring the Church bell on Sundays, because if you were small enough you could “ride” the bell rope up and down as it rang. To my knowledge it is still being rung.”
“Hey Cuz, The Springer Drag Strip brought back a lot of memories. Tommy Jamison also has a ’59 Chevy Impala that folks couldn’t beat as well. Three speed column with three dueces under the hood. I believe that Ragland was racing a ’58 Impala back then. Also recall that Ragland took in one of our cocker spaniel puppies when we lived in Davis. Thanks to Hoss in Sherman for bringing back some more good memories of growing up in small town Oklahoma.’ -Poss in Korea
Downtown Durant, Ok. is full of old buildings that are proudly kept. The Plaza theater is next to a functional barber shop, which is next to a realtor’s office that has kept the old pharmacy signs – even the Coca Cola advertisements on the windows. Click Here
“Butch, I believe that Mr. Rappolee, Principal of Jefferson, also had a daughter named Mary Jo. Not positive of this. The field next to Carter Avenue Methodist was used by Jefferson in the 50’s & 60’s for football and softball practice. One year they had delivered several loads of dirt to smooth the softball field and on the last day of school it rained and at the last recess we played KING OF THE HILL. Mr. Castle, (principal) was very reluctant to let us back into the building. Thanks for T&T”
Ardmoreite Obie Johnson acquitted of the murder of Henry Guess at the Blue Front Cafe. Here is the article about the February 2, 1947 shooting from the Daily Ardmoreite:
Obie Johnson was acquitted of murder charges in connection with the death of Henry Guess in the district court Friday, as Judge Monroe presided.
Johnson was charge with shooting Henry Guess to death in front of the Blue Front cafe on Caddo Street, February 2, 1947. The defense headed by Joe Ben Champion and Wilson Wallace of Champion, Champion and Wallace produced witnesses who testified that Johnson acted in self defense of his life and business.
Guess had caused trouble in the establishment several times, and had been told to stay out of the Blue Front, which is owned by Johnson’s uncle Earl Mann, according to testimony. On the night of February 2, Johnson had asked Guess to leave and in the argument that followed it was testified that Guess pulled a knife on Johnson, and the later was forced to shoot to protect his life. Alvin Bruce and Joe Culp represented the State in the case.
Miss Woods and the girl from Texas
By Donald E. Smith
Kiss Woods our school teacher, was the daughter of a Mr. Woods who worked for my Grandfather as a bookkeeper for Sinclair Oil Co. She was a shining light to all of us in our class. She was always helpful to each of us in our class.
The girl from Texas came in the summer of 1939. This was during the great depression. Her family were farmers, some were near Wichita Falls Texas. Those were the days of the great depression. The dust bowl was in full swing and it was difficult to make a living. So her father and mother had heard of the Healdton Oil field where there were five spotting, that is drilling in wells between the existing wells. So they had come to Oklahoma to make ends meet. They had loaded up there covered wagon with the necessary tools to do the work of building slush pits and headed for the Healdton field.
They had three children and upon arrival had set up camp right behind the Dundee school on a small creek. The Dundee pond lay just across the road. The children started school and under the primitive conditions they were living under it was difficult for them to be quite as well groomed as the other children.
This girl from my class was a pretty faced girl but not as well kept as most, her face was not always clean and her hair was unkempt. The girl had a charming personality. She was poorly dressed. Miss Woods was quick to see the good in her. She bought her a wash cloth and towel, comb and brush. She also got several dresses, hand me downs from other families. From that day forward the girl came to school well groomed and looked like the rest of the children.
After several months the work played out so the family loaded their covered wagon and left western Carter County and returned to Texas.
The Ardmore Computer Discussion Circle will meet on Tuesday, March 21 at the Ardmore Public Library from 6:00 to 8:00 pm. I have my laptop connected to the internet at the Library so we will have an opportunity to search the internet for information applying to any topic that we may discuss. This meeting will not have a focus point but will be a general discussion of any topic which may be brought up. Come talk, listen, learn, and teach !!!
“Butch, here are my Ardmore explosion of 1915 post cards that I have. Thought you and others might enjoy. Also if anybody has any Ardmore postcards for sale I will buy them. -Steven Harris email@example.com Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
Lets have some fun. What does this look like? I will tell you the answer later. -Doug Williams firstname.lastname@example.org Click Here
“Even though this photo shows a location very similar to the early days (circa 1910 – 1930) of the courthouse park in Perry, Oklahoma (sometimes identified as Central Park), I’m not quite certain that it was in our town and was wondering if someone could positively identify which city this was located in. Yes I noticed the “backwards” N but there doesn’t seem to be any particular identification. No photographer’s name, location, or date as to when it may have been taken. I also cannot read any business names on the windows or buildings. The little bandstand (if that’s what it is) does not quite resemble ours and it appears to have a tile roof. Also, where is the courthouse? Very interesting isn’t it? I am puzzled.” -Roy Kendrick Click Here
Mule skinner: The mule skinner was a professional individual sometimes called a teamster whose sole purpose was to keep his wagon pulled by mules under control and moving. The mule skinner actually rode one of the mules and guided the entire team with a single rein which was called a jerk link. An experienced mule skinner knew the personality of every one of his mules and could make them into a magical running machine whereas an inexperienced teamster found them to be obstinate and stubburn.
Mule Skinner Blues by Dolly Parton 1975
Well good morning captain
Good morning to you sir
Hey hey yeah
Do you need another mule skinner
Down on your new mud run
Hey hey yeah
Well I’m a lady mule skinner
From down old tennessee way
Hey hey I come from tennessee
I can make any mule listen
Or I won’t accept your pay
Hey hey I won’t take your pay
Well hey hey little waterboy
Won’t you bring your water ?round
If you don’t like your job
Well you can throw your bucket down
Throw it down boy, throw it down
Well I’ve been working down in georgia
At a greasy spoon cafe
Hey that lovely joint
Just to let a no good man
Call every cent of my pay
Hey hey and I’m sick of it
And wanna be a mule skinner
See everyone next week!
Lone Grove, Oklahoma
March 9, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 476
After the problem I had a week ago last Thursday sending out my T&T, I have good news for everyone. My Cableone internet provider now has their new anti-spam software fine tuned and working great. I talked to Neill Courtney with the local Cableone office here in Ardmore and everything is ok now. All 1,500 newsletters went out last Thursday evening by email in record time, 10 minutes and 49 seconds to be exact! It means so much when you have someone local to talk to when an internet related problem arises. The best way I can describe it is, its local people helping local people. Thanks to Neill Courtney we’re back in the ezine business!
And I appreciate everyone who wrote in the past few days with suggestions on how to resolve my email problem of week before last. I get many emails that I dont put in my T&T, emails that really tug at my heart strings at times. I’ll be starting my 10th year of sending out my ezine on March 15th. I remember 2 or 3 years after I started my weekly T&T I was very late one Friday evening hitting the Send button. A lady, and I cant remember her name, and lived in west Texas on was on my mailing list. She sent me an email and asked if I was going to throw my paper. LOL And there’s several who have wrote in over the years and told me they print out my weekly newsletter and take it to the nursing home every saturday and read it to their bedfast mother or father. Another man wrote in several years ago, head of a big corporation, who told me he receives a lot of important emails a week, but he waits all week for mine to arrive in his mailbox. And then there’s the lady in Oklahoma City who printed out my newsletter each week and mailed to her 85 year old mother in Wilson, Oklahoma who had no computer and waited to read my T&T. And the list goes on and on. Thanks everyone for 9 great years, and I’m looking for many more together. Plus I’ve been learning history right along with everyone else!
An update to the Veteran Marker project: We’ve got 3 markers made and 5 more ready to pour over the next few days. Doug Williams is helping by setting the markers in a concrete base. This week he set 2 markers at the cemetery. Here’s some photos he took of the work. Click Here
Even though we have a lot more work to do before the project is completed, we’ve made a good start. Teresa Cunningham has been helping by using her expertise in genealogy and cemetery record searches she’s learn through the years. Really there is a number of people who have lent their help with the project, but it would have never happened had it not been for those of you who donated through pledges. Thanks all of you who is helping me with this, I sure couldnt do it by myself. Click Here
A Reader wrote in this week saying he thought he remember the big long signs at the Carmon Lumber company…. just black lettering and white background. Yes, he is right. And my cousins in Ft Worth has both signs so they are being very well kept.
Someone mentioned a few weeks ago about champion bull rider Lane Frost being buried at Hugo, Oklahoma cemetery. Here’s a pic I took of the Lane memorial when visiting the ‘circus cemetery’ at Hugo. Click Here
Also at the Hugo cemetery is world famous bull rider Freckles Brown. In 1967 at the Oklahoma City rodeo Freckles rode the unridable bull Tornado before a crowd of 9,000. Tornado had gone unriden for 220 rides before Freckles Brown rode him all the way to the 8 second buzzer. Click Here
I just happen to stumble on to a great account of beginnings of Carter county history and its courthouse that would serve the people to present day. In 4 years the Carter county courthouse will be 100 years old. There is hardly a building in Ardmore that is 100 years old and still in the superb condition as the courthouse is today. It stands as a testament to the 145 county commissioners since 1907 whose responsibility it has been to maintain the people’s courthouse down through the years. If you havent visited our courthouse in a long time, I would encourage you to do so. As you walk around the floors its almost like a step back in time. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ok/county/carter/
This week I saw the first blossoms on my Empress tree in my front yard. Click Here
Many of you will remember I planted this Paulownia Empress tree in June 2003 with it was only 12 inches high. Its not taller then my house! Click Here
Over the next few weeks I may be kinda sporadic on my mailouts, so be patient with me. But when you least expect it, thats when it will appear in your mailbox. Just keep your memories and stories coming in….. and I will get them in the mailbag.
SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK’S MAILBAG
“Last weeks article about Sylvan Goldman who invented the first shopping cart in 1936 and owned a chain of Oklahoma City grocery stores called Humpty-Dumpty brought back some good memories. Allied Supermarkets of Detroit, Michigan bought Humpty-Dumpty and eventually called the stores Humpty Supermarkets. I worked for them in Oklahoma City as their Training Director from 1973-76 when I was transferred to the Corporate office in Detroit. They went out of business in 1978. The trainer in Oklahoma City for newly hired cashiers for all stores located south of Tulsa was a very nice woman named Myrtle. (can’t remember her last name) Most of us called her Murt. She worked for Mr. Sylvan Goldman in his original store. According to her, and she loved to tell the story, the first shopping cart was a peach basket placed on a wooden chair and pulled around the store. From that came wheels, and eventually the cart as we know it today.” -W. E. (Wally) Glasscock, Richmond, VA
“Butch I want to thank you and your readers on the help in putting together history about the slow pokes car club, and the old drag strip once located at the downtown airport. I still need some photos that may have been taken between the fall of 1954 to the fall of 1958, when the track move to the Springer location. Thanks.” -Rob Ragland email@example.com
“A very interesting account of growing tomatos upside down. I am going to try this year to make such happen but believe I will place some reflective Mylar below to make the plant believe the sun is below, not above. Might have to place some side curtains to assist the illusion to the plant but believe it would assists in the downward growth. Time will soon tell.” -Bim in Sherman Texas Click Here
“We drove down to Thackerville today and the passenger train was running with me and I left him behind as he stopped at Lake Murray road for something. Then as we were getting to Thackerville he came by me. I finally caught it. We crossed under the train track and got on the other side of it as we were coming into Thackerville. These back cars were some old train cars he was pulling. The train usually has only 3 passenger cars but today it had about 9.” -Doug Williams Click Here Click Here
“When I was in highschool at Davis during the late ’50s and early ’60s, some of us guys from Davis would go down to the old Springer dragstrip. I remember seeing JR Shaw in his black ugly plymouth racing and wiping out other people with that hot car. Jimmy Ragland is another name that I recall, after 40 some odd years. Tommy Jamison had a 1964 Ford that no one could beat back then. Seems he traded for a 406 ci engine that came out of a 1963 ford that the dealership in Davis owned and received after a young man from Wynnewood was shipped to Nam. The young guy I was told, let the car go back to the dealer after he was drafted. Wonder what ever became of him? Anyways, after Tommy wiped out a few hotrodders, they wanted to tear into his car, and of course, he told them no, and they banned him from racing at that track. I will tell ya this….one night I was sitting in the back seat of that ’64 and the speedometer dial went out of sight at 120 mph at 5000 rpms, and I watched the Tachometer hit, 6000 rpms before Tommy relaxed his foot on the gas pedal. That machine would fly just like that old souped up Lincoln immortalized in song. If there had been any white picket fences to see, I doubt that we could have seen them.” -Scott Bumgarner aka Hoss…..right Poss? Sherman via Davis
“I don’t know if you have ever watched or currently watch The Amazing Race on CBS, but this season we (at the U of Arkansas) have special reason to watch as one of the couples: Monica & Joseph, aka “Mo Jo”, are from Fayetteville and Ft. Smith and are both students at the University. They came in 6th place this week, so if any of your readers are fans of the show, please watch and root for Team “Mo Jo”. Thanks.” -Kathi George, your Arkie friend
Where was the Devil’s Neck Bone and the Adam Jimmy Point?
“Colonel James Bourland (1801-1879) traced the “Whiskey Trail” from his home on the Delaware Bend of Red River (Love county) to Fort Arbuckle in now Garvin County. This road passed by the “Devil’s Neck Bone” near the present Lake Murray site (Carter-Love county line, twp 6S ran 2W), then intersected the Gainesville road at the Adam Jimmy point. The “Adam Jimmy House” is cited on a 1935 Love County map in my 1,014-page book, BOURLAND IN NORTH TEXAS AND INDIAN TERRITORY DURING THE CIVIL WAR: FORT COBB, FORT ARBUCKLE & THE WICHITA MOUNTAINS.” -Patricia Adkins-Rochette, prochette@Juno.com www.bourlandcivilwar.com Click Here Click Here
“I had a surprise visitor today while up at the farm. Look closely at the first photo and you will see him. I was surprised he stayed long enough for me to get a photo and he left soon after. Those eyes seemed to be staring right through me. Second photo is the same critter but in a different tree and with some filtering added.” -Dwane Stevens Click Here Click Here
“Man – old roller rinks. I wonder if any of your readers out there might have a pic of the old roller rink that used to be at Cedarville just north of Turner Falls. Man what a great place to skate and if you weren’t careful you could fall out the windows on the east side of the rink where there was about a 30-40 foot drop. Believed it burned down. Our Ma and Pa Bridges used to run the Curio Shop just north of the rink – long before we came along.” -Poss
“I talked with Rob Ragland, and he mentioned that it was probably Bob Bishop, who was an airman at AAFB. That name rings a bell with me. He may not have been president but he was definitely one of the organizers, and served as starter… Incidentally, Rob identified the driver who drove off the cliff at the south end of the track as “Rosebud” but couldn’t recall the full name. Could it have been “Rosie” Rose, mentioned in the latest T&T?”
“I am going to put together a scrapbook of the Overbrook, Oklahoma school. Do you have any information or any pictures of the school. We are planning the reunion in June 24th. We will have it at the Greenville school cafeteria also if you have anything on Greenville would appreciate all the help that I can get. I am also looking for 60’s pictures of Greenville School if you know of anyone that has some of them that can be emailed to me. Thanks.” -Linda Kerr firstname.lastname@example.org ————————————————————————-
“Butch. Here are 4 pictures taken at Camp Chapman around 1930. The Boy Scout camp was across the Washita River from Dougherty. It was about 1/2 mile west of the river in the mountains. After the camp was closed a new one was built at Camp Simpson.” -Grover Wells Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here
The Daily Ardmoreite December 24, 1911- Joe Leonard, editor of the Gainesville Register, had a party of his people Tuesday at Camp Chapman in the Arbuckle hills. Gainesville scout enthusiasts are planning to use the camp for an outing of the boys. In the party besides Editor Leonard, were Ballard Watts, druggist; Egbert Thompson, secretary of the chamber of commerce, and R.F. Spires, merchant.
“Rexroat School Reunion. It will be at Ardmore Lake, Saturday, May 27th 2006. Invitations should be coming out soon to people who have already been coming and any one interested can also call me at (580) 223-6811. My Mom is Delana Rexroat and the only living “Rexroat” that actually went to Rexroat School, and I’m sure there are other’s with a lot of history to share who don’t know the Reunion even takes place. We would love to see a large turnout this year. -Susan Tate email@example.com
“Butch. This picture was taken at Camp Chapman. Ken Wells, my brother is on the left. Phleat Boyd, son of Dr. Boyd, is on the right.” -Grover Wells Click Here
“Butch, here are my Ardmore explosion of 1915 post cards that I have. Thought you and others might enjoy. Also if anybody has any Ardmore postcards for sale I will buy them. -Steven Harris firstname.lastname@example.org Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
“Butch, This picture was obtained from the Ardmore school board by Jeannie Crump. This is a picture of Jefferson school about 1946. This was before fourth ave was paved in the late forties. I can snail mail you a better picture if you have any interest. This picture was taken facing northwest from the front yard of the Towery home. The front door of the bldg faced the south east and was on the corner of fourth and carter SE. The auditorium was on the west side of the bldg. Directly across the street to the east was a Methodist church and a vacant lot where lots of pick up softball was played. Gordon Sturdevant (Sp) lived on the SW corner and taught shop in the High School. Walter Rappolee was principal and some of the teachers were Mrs. O. R. Bridges, who lived a few blocks south on Carter, Mrs Rose Solomon and Miss Winneford Bransford (Sp). I believe Mr. Rappolee had a son who became a policeman in Texas and was killed at an early age. This was a fine group of skilled and dedicated teachers who provided a quality education.” -Jerry Brown Click Here
Melvin Hodges had a small store across the street to the south. Selma Copeland Brown Kluna who attended the old school in the 1920’s and later taught in this school in the fifties lived in a home just west of the school. Mrs Montgomery ran the food service in this school in the 1940s. Playground equipment was sparse. Two basketball goals and a set of monkey bars. The playground was covered with bermuda grass and lots of stickers.
Below is a link to the forth ward (Jefferson) school before this one. From your files of course. Click Here
“Let us, before we die, gather up our heritage, and offer it to our children.” -Will Durant, The Story of Civilization Click Here
See everyone next week!
Lone Grove, Oklahoma
March 2, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 475
Unlike last week, it looks like my cableone provider has got their new anti-spam software fine tuned and working great for this week’s sendout. All 1,500 newsletters when out by email in record time, 10 minutes and 49 seconds! We’re back in the ezine business. lol
Last week we talked about Oil Creek Falls in eastern Carter county and asked if anyone had a photograph of those falls. Grover Wells came through with a very nice pic of the falls taken years ago. The picture shows the falls to be really wide, and I can tell it would be a beautiful place to go on a picnic and swimming on a summer day. Click Here
A Reader let me scan her Ray’s Roller Rink ruler this week. Click Here
Many of you will remember where Ray’s Roller Rink was years ago. It was housed in the old National Guard Armory on Sunset Dr SW where the Greater Southwest Historical Museum is located today. Click Here
This week a piece of history came down in NE Ardmore. The Carmon Lumber Company was started by my grandparents Stanley and Addie Carmon in 1930. I spent the first 21 years of my life growing up in the house next door to the lumber with my grandparents. This is a pic I scanned in 1996 and its kinda too small, but its the best I have right now of the lumber yard as it looked when I was a teenager. You can see the store front on the left and my grandparents house on the right. As soon as it find the photo again, I’ll rescan it so it shows more detail. a href=” https://secureservercdn.net/126.96.36.199/knn.c7e.myftpupload.com/ttphotos6a/CarmonLumber1974.jpg “> Click Here
And this is a pic I took this week after the bulldozer got through. Things change. Click Here
Saturday morning February 25, 2006 the Angel Food Program came to Ardmore for the first time. The host site for the food distribution was Calvary Christian Fellowship on 4th NW. I was there before 9am to pick up my food basket, and I was already on my way back home at 5 minutes after nine. Didnt even have to get out. Just drove through their circle and a volunteer at the end of the drive just placed the box of goodies in my truck. Boy, that already fried and battered chicken was delicious for lunch that day. I just popped 3 pieces in my deep fryer and I couldnt have wanted any better tasting chicken. I can see I’ll be eating on these vitels all month! Click Here Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
This is a pic I took of my actual food basket items I received last Saturday. Click Here
About 1,000 people came to pick up 1,700 food baskets February 25th. Each food basket cost $25 but had about $60 worth of food in it. I know there is a lot of people including me that appreciate and thankful the Calvary Christian Fellowship church was the first organization to host the Angel Food Program in Ardmore!
Here all to great vitels that’s on the menu for March! (must have Acrobat Reader to read) Click Here
And for those of you who dont have Acrobat Reader on your computer, here’s the same menu for March 2006 as a scan. If you want in, be sure and get your $25 in on the deadline. Besides the regular food basket, I’m going to buy the 10 lbs of Chicken Popcorn! Click Here
If you want in on March’s food basket, be sure and get your $25 in by the deadline. Besides the regular food basket, I’m going to buy the 10 lbs of Chicken Popcorn!
Also the Mary Niblack Baptist Church at the southeast edge of Ardmore will be hosting the Angel Food Program in March. If you live in that area contact them to get in on the program. Click Here
To find a host site near you……. Click Here
A T&T reader send me an email asking help in located a photographer to take pics of their family reunion June 3rd here in Ardmore. If you have a good camera and want to snap some pics that day at a reasonable cost, let me know and I’ll get you in touch with them.
SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK’S MAILBAG
Question: “Hello, my name is Jana Bray Gray. Donald was my cousin. We spent practically every summer together. We were so sympathic with each other as I was SO tall and he SO short. We wondered what had happened in our gene pool! He taught me to drive, and we were there for each other through some very difficult years. When he was killed 6/15/69 in Vietnam I was expecting my first child. I was devastated and still miss that big smile if his. If I had a son at that time he would of been named after him. I read that you had written something about him and I can’t seem to find it. I am putting our family’s genealogy together and since the only pictures I have of him are childrens and I don’t have his obituary I would like to know if you had anything I could add. I love and miss him so much after all these years. My own son was murdered March 28,2000. He was a fireman he helped save three lives but lost his own. I am comforted by the thought he is with Donald and my son gets to see the man I always said I wanted him to be like. ANYTHING YOU MAY HAVE WOULD HELP!! Thank You.”
T&T Saturday, July 25, 1998 Vol 2 Issue 66
By Butch Bridges www.OklahomaHistory.net
I found this site that takes you back in time to the Vietnam era. It has music from that era, photos, and war stories and Posts from the men and women who fought there. I had a good friend who lost his life in that God forsaken place. In school he was absolutely the best. Donald Brightman had everything going for him….. but when his country called, he went. But like 50,000 others, he did not come back. There has been a great price paid so you and I can have our freedom. Click Here
Francis Boardman “Pistol Pete” Eaton was a former deputy U.S. Marshal who claimed to have killed 11 men with the Colt .45 he wore strapped to his side. He served as deputy U.S. Marshall under Judge Isaac C. Parker “hanging judge” in the Indian Territory. Click Here
Here is a photo of the old RR bridge over the Washita River near Berwyn, (Gene Autry) Oklahoma. Click Here
“Butch maybe some of your readers can help with this mystery. I would like to know for sure if the old water wheel and tank were the site for the Ringling train to take on water. Pictures included. I would like to see a picture of the old water wheel and tank before it was torn down.” -Charles Smith Click Here – Click Here
William Tilghman, Jr was a City Marshall in Cromwell, Oklahoma when he was killed in 1924 trying to arrest a drunken federal officer. He was also a United States Marshall for many years. Click Here
Sylvan Goldman invented the first shopping cart in 1936. He owned a chain of Oklahoma City grocery stores called Humpty-Dumpty. Click Here
Kate “Ma” Barker known as “Ma,” she and her sons, Herman, Lloyd, Arthur and Fred, teamed up with Alvin Karpis (whom Fred had met in the penitentiary) and several other criminals to lead a life of crime…. In 1915 the family moved to Tulsa, Oklahoma, where Kate Barker’s sons were to begin their life of crime. Click Here
Ned Christie a Native American Outlaw. He was a blacksmith, gunsmith, and in 1885, was elected a representative of National Council from the Going Snake District of Cherokee Nation. It began on May 4, 1887 with the murder of Deputy Daniel Maples in the Cherokee Nation. Click Here
Boyd’s Oil Springs is 20 miles NE of Ardmore in Johnston county. It was the home of Winchester Colbert (2nd Governor of the Chickasaws) and sold to Boyd. Annica Kemp, the wife of Winchester Colbert is buried there. Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
“Well now Cuz, you need to look into the Goddard’s Ranch a little closer as we are related (by marriage on Mom’s side of the family) to the Goddard’s. Believe her brother Doug who married one of the Hamm girls (the Hamm’s were kin to the Goddard family) from Davis. Might be worth looking into.” -Ralph Leon Bridges Ford AKA Poss in Korea
Butch, I ran across a web site where World War II Veterans can register in memorial. Their bulletin board is pretty neat. Lets get them signed up while there is a few still alive.” -Roy Bray, Del City email@example.com. Click Here
“Attached are three different scanned photos I have of the same Methodist Episcopal church, all from the collection of my mother, Mary Katherine Sullivan (who grew up in the 1920’s at 306 G. St. N.E.). One appears to be the same exact postcard as the one you labeled “MEChurch1908.jpg” based on the lettering style on the card. FYI, also attached is one scanned postcard photo of the old Presbyterian Church and parsonage; it was a different building entirely. I enjoy your newsletter immensely, many thanks for all the TLC you put into it.” -Don Gwynne, Arlington, TX firstname.lastname@example.org Click Here – Click Here – Click Here
“Hi Butch, In response to the letter by Jim Kyle regarding the “Lake Murray” race track(the present Ardmore Air Port), he mentioned that he couldn’t remember the name of the club president who was acting as flagman. I can’t say for sure, but he is probably referring to Norman Flowers, who was one of the founding members and President of the “SlowPokes” car club and also was involved in the construction of the race track. Rob Ragland’s dad, Jim Ragland could probably confirm this. I will contact Norman (who also happens to be my dad, Ha! Ha!) and see what information he may have to contribute.” -Allen Flowers email@example.com
“Butch: FYI, Oil Creek was as big as Turner Falls, thousands of people would go there in the summer. They also had a hotel and a town there in the late 1800s. There are numerous photos of the Oil Creek Falls. Bob Goddard dammed up the lake and the falls, making a 90 acre lake which is there now. There is still a little of the falls at his house near there. Above Oil Creek is a cemetery where Winchester Colbert, Chief of the Chickasaws, is buried and many others. It is totally overgrown and rundown, but still there. As for the road from Baum to Nebo, the old Setliff Store (about halfway between Nebo and Baum) is still there, we have it and it used to be the gas stop between Baum and Nebo. As for the road, it was built by G.W. Young, who was a county commissioner, and owned the largest ranch in southern Oklahoma at the time. He married a full blood Chickasaw. He is buried in the Young Cemetery which overlooks the airpark. This was the road across the Washita at the air park. The reason the road is so crooked is because he wanted to go by every house on the way.”
“Set up a newsletter webpage from your site. If I’m able to find your website, others will. Build the newsletter webpage and they will come.”
“Put your newsletter on your website and let everyone know what date it’ll be there. Cheaper than $100 per month!!” -Florida
“Morning Butch, I invite you to view my pics of the Carson Barnes Circus when it came to Wilson last Summer. These shots were of the Matinee performance.” -Ken Updike Click Here
“Butch, This coin is like the Mason coin in last week’s T&T. It was my Dad’s.” -Grover Wells Click Here – Click Here
“The man who had the automotive shop on Broadway mentioned by Monroe Cameron was J.R. Shaw. He was on the leading edge of hot rod technology and drag racing in Ardmore in the late 50’s and early 60’s. I recall that he was one of the first to buy in to the push button automatic shifting Dodge and Plymouth cars that were so fast. It seems to me he was the one who raced against Dennis Laver in a 1962 Chevy 409 and against Eldon Roberts in his hot 1958 Chevy with the column shift three speed tranny. I tried to help Jess Mitchell run his new 1963? Ford 427 with factory four speed in the floor but we never won a race. Even Thomas Joel Berryhill’s 1960 Pontiac Ventura two door hardtop with the 389 c.i.d. engine, three speed column shift and three (3) dueces (2 bbl carburetors) would outrun the new Ford. I believe it was J. R.’s wife that worked for Joe and Linda Martin that ran a Pontiac dealership on Main Street formerly owned by Charles Schwab.” -Dennis Medrick
“Butch, If you look at the picture, it says “M.E. Church, Ardmore, Oklahoma.” Being a good United Methodist gal, I can tell you that M. E. stands for “Methodist Episcopal.” That is what the United Methodist church was called before it became Methodist then United Methodist. FYI, during the War of the Southern Rebellion, there were two Methodist Episcopal Church branches, the Methodist Episcopal Church North and the Methodist Episcopal Church South. If you want additional information on the M.E. church, you can contact the United Methodist Church archives at Oklahoma City University. My guess is that one of the houses in the picture is the church parsonage.” -Cindy in OKC Click Here
Sulphur, Oklahoma I.T. Street scene of cotton wagons, Fant building and First State Bank. Click Here
“Hi Butch, I have been one of your avid readers for over a year, and enjoy every one of the issues. I grew up in Gene Autry and got mixed up in your directions coming into town. As I remember coming South from the Airbase as you come into the North end you make a right hand turn go across tracks, make a sharp left and go south down through town, at the South end its a rolling curve to the right and then a Left over the tracks headed for Ardmore the back way. Back at the North end if you made a left it would take to where you could make a right turn and follow it all the way to the South end and a sharp right and incline over the tracks you then came back into the main road, back at the North end if you stayed straight it would take you over to the C.F. Mock ranch, when we were out of school we would work at the ranch hauling hay for the summer. As we were growing up there we had a name for the business owners and the retired people. We called them the spit and whittle club; when they were not playing dominos they were sitting around chawin tobacco and whittling on a stick. Also, at the North end before crossing the tracks on the left was the Sante Fe cattle shipping yards. We use to round up a bunch of Jacks & Jenny’s that Pat Whitfield turned loose to graze and put them in the corrals. We would build a fire and ride the Jacks and Jenny’s until around 10pm or so and then I had a 3 mi. walk home. If only the kids today could experience growing up in a small town. We made our own entertainment. Hope you might be interested in this bit of memories. Keep up the good work. Before sending this I went back and examined your map and should have known you would be right, your map was before the Army Air Base was put in the way. One of Oklahoma’s well known celebrities who still lives in Oklahoma is Les Gilliam who was from Gene Autry. Until next time.” -Robert Cole
“Hi Butch, I just found your website. I found a few interesting facts that I thought you may be able to help me with. You see my great grandparents owned some land that they sold so that Lake Murray could be built. Do you know if there is a document or something that exists to show the names of the people who sold their land so that this lake could be built? I have done extenious research on this. On your site, I found the first type of information as to when the building actually started. Thus giving me a better time frame. I would also like to know if you have come across an artical about a man being hit by a train. I have heard 2 stories about this. The first is that he died from it. The second is that he died later of Phnumonia. The mans name is Albert Nolen (my great grandfather), who also sold his land for Lake Murray. I would greatly appreciate anything that you can help me with. Thank you.” -Elizabeth Cook
“Butch, Someone wrote in about the Ole Cadillac Ambulance. I had almost forgotten about it. My dad was a volunteer driver for the ambulance service and drove the Cadillac Ambulance part time. I remember when he was on call we would take it when we went somewhere just in case he got a call, being a teenager it was quite an experience for me. I don’t think he ever was called out of town on a run. But did in fact drive it quit often. His name was Reece Russell and own Reece Russell Auto Repair which was locate across the street from Colvert’s on S Washington. I believe there is a cycle repair shop there now.”
“You may have noticed in the obituaries last Sunday, that Clarence “Rosie” Rose had passed away. He was older brother to my uncle Bobby Rose and one of the founding members of the SLOW POKES car club.” -Allen Flowers firstname.lastname@example.org
“Hi Butch, I just found your website. I found a few interesting facts that I thought you may be able to help me with. You see my great grandparents owned some land that they sold so that Lake Murray could be built. Do you know if there is a document or something that exists to show the names of the people who sold their land so that this lake could be built? I have done extenious research on this. On your site, I found the first type of information as to when the building actually started. Thus giving me a better time frame. I would also like to know if you have come across an artical about a man being hit by a train. I have heard 2 stories about this. The first is that he died from it. The second is that he died later of Phnumonia. The mans name is Albert Nolen (my great grandfather), who also sold his land for Lake Murray. I would greatly appreciate anything that you can help me with. Thank you.” -Elizabeth Cook email@example.com
Question: “Hi Butch, Hope you can tell me how to find information/pictures of the dishes that were found inside oatmeal boxs. I believe I own several pieces. Thanks.” -Joyce
Answer from a past T&T:
“Butch, the glasses and dishes were in Mothers Oats seem to me there was a brand something like Crystal Oats also.”
“Butch, I sent you an email about oatmeal glassware and it just occurred to me when I was rereading the newsletter that the glassware came in Crystal Wedding oats not Quaker.” Click Here – Click Here
“Here’s some info and links on my cousin, Jared Ashley, who is a finalist on Nashville Star. He has lots of family in Davis. Call and vote for him March 14th!” -Bryan Pullen in Davis, OK
Click Here – Here’s his page on USA’s site
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Where there is Hunger, Law is not regarded; and where Law is not regarded, there will be Hunger. -Benjamin Franklin
See everyone next week!
Lone Grove, Oklahoma